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4377) Therese Kline 
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Upcoming Sleepy Hollow Trail Riders Events:

The first Saturday in May celebrates not only the most exciting two minutes in sports. Just as exciting as a jockey flying over the ground at Churchill Downs, is watching some well feed men and women literally turn the ground over! And both of these thrills are brought to you compliments of that diversely unique partner, the horse.

So bring your favorite hat and join us for the best pre-derby celebration, Plow Day. We will finish up in
amble time for you to watch the derby later in the afternoon.

We need volunteers to handle a variety of tasks. Please call Gary Fortin to sign up for a shift. His number
is in the following excerpt from our website calendar.

I hope to see you Saturday.


May 1st- Plow Day/Fun Day
Fundraiser for SHTRA.
10:00am-3:00pm
Watch draft horse teams work our wildlife food plots. A unique chance to view our rural heritage. *New
this year--this is your opportunity to drive a draft team! Climb aboard a wagon, grab the reins and be a
teamster! Informal fun pull at 1pm. Obstacle course. Public wagon rides - donation Adults $2, Children
$1. Lunch concession will be available. Vera Thornton's original print of 2009 Plow Day to be unveiled
and displayed. Sue Chant's tasty cinnamon rolls will be there...don't miss out on this special treat! SHTRA
volunteers are needed to help with parking, 50/50 raffle, lunch stand, etc. Printable Flier
Contact: Gary Fortin at 989-834-1813 shargary@peoplepc.com
4376) Nancy Hubbard #5571 
Location:
Kingsley, MI 49649
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April 23rd 8 horses were rescued in Fowlerville MI. Following a 911 call Animal control found the abused and neglected horses at an abondoned farm. Two horses were found dead from starvation and one was euthanized because of untreated injuries that prevented the horse from walking. The rescue was made possible because of a successful intervention by the Michigan Horse Welfar Coalition. Horse North Rescue in Fife Lake MI is a member of the MHWC and were able to take 6 horses, 2 horses went to other MHWC members. I am proud to say that MTRA members, including myself, were a part of this rescue. We need help with the care and feeding of these horses. Three horses have been placed with The Michigan Equine foundation, a new group in Northern MI. We are in need of everything, hay, feed, wormer, mane and tail conditioner, fiberpsyll and funds to pay for vet care that will be required. Anyone interested in helping this worth while effort please contact me. For more information on the MHWC go to [www.michiganhorsewelfarecoalition.org] for more information on Horse North Rescue go to [www.horsenorthrescue.org.] Information and updates on these horses will be available at both sites along with pictures. 231-263-7490

2824 Saturday, April 24, 2010 08:11 PM
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Thank you very much for posting this update. Such a tragic situation, but the surviving horses are so lucky to have the rescues. I was able to access the horse north rescue website, but the other one would not load.

Gretchen 4911 Sunday, April 25, 2010 06:32 AM
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Can they find out who is responsible for this? It's sickening when people do this to their animals. frown

Nancy 5571 Sunday, April 25, 2010 08:45 AM
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this case is now in the hands of the pros atty in Livingston co. We will try to keep you posted.
4375) jean beach #3909 
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CAVALLO MEMEORY FOAM THERAPEUTIC SADDLE PAD, 1/2 INCH THICK;
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PICT UPON REQUEST;
CONTACT: BJMBEACH@ISERV.NET

jean beach #3909 Monday, April 26, 2010 03:38 PM
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this pad has just been sold, thank you to all who inquiried!!!! smile
4374) jean beach #3909 
Location:
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ALMOST NEW!!!
OUT BACK COAT & PANTS; BOTH ARE OIL SKIN;VERY PLYABLE; COAT IS HIP LEGHT & MADE BY OUTBACK TRADING CO.; PANTS ARE MADE IN AUSTRALIA BY THE AUSTRALIAN OUTBACK COLLECTION; LOOKS LIKE A MATCHED PAIR!!!
BOTH ARE BLACK; BOTH ARE SIZE MEDIUM:
USED MAYBE 3 XS, BOTH ARE IN EXCELLENT CONDITION;
PRICE: FOR THE PAIR, $85.00; WILL SELL SEPARATE;
PICT & MEASUREMENTS UPON REQUEST;
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4373) jean beach #3909 
Location:
usa
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ORTHO FLEX ROPER MODEL, MADE BY THE ORGINAL ORTHO FLEX CO.; SERIAL # ORO367; IT HAS NEVER BEEN USED FOR ROPING ONLY TRAIL RIDING; HEAVY DUTY SADDLE, MADE TO USE!!!
DARK CHOCOLATE BROWN; BEAUTIFUL CONDITION, AND WELL KEPT, MORE OF A MANS STYLE SADDLE;
8 SILVER CONCHOES WITH FILIGRI ENGRAVED DESIGN;
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PRICE: $1,200.00
PICT UPON REQUEST;
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4372) therese kline 2049 
Location:
Mi
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MEP amnnual meeting April 27, 5:00 pm
fREE.

See web site for more info

Therese Kline 2049 Sunday, April 25, 2010 02:01 PM
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Thanks to my nephew using the iPod. Here is more

Dear Equine Enthusiast,

We are excited to announce that Mike Yoder will be our keynote speaker at our MEP Annual Meeting and Legislative Reception. Please plan to attend this event and share your thoughts and concerns with our elected officials and hear speaker Mike Yoder. We have over 30 legislators that have RSVP’d to attend on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 at the Lansing Radisson Hotel. NO CHARGE TO ATTEND

5:00pm BRIEF ANNUAL MEETING AND ELECTION OF BOARD MEMBERS


6:00pm LEGISLATIVE RECEPTION

WELCOME – President Aaron Rice

SILENT AUCTION Begins

INTRODUCTIONS AND AWARDS
Legislative Awards
Senator Michelle McManus
Representative Mike Huckleberry
Representative Paul Opsommer

Industry Award
Michigan Farm Bureau

KEYNOTE SPEAKER – Mike Yoder, Horse Parks (Facilities) and Equine Check Off Program

Silent Auction Winner Announcements

8:00 Adjourn
4371) T.Bolman 5823 
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(4371) Ortho-Flex picture big grin

Gin 6376 Sunday, April 25, 2010 10:19 AM
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Sold! Thanks again Tracy! big grin
4370) T.Bolman 5823 
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Holland
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For sale: Custom made western style Ortho-Flex saddle with the flex panel system. This saddle was close to 3,000.00 brand new. It comes with a hand tooled breast-collar, ortho-flex girth, shims and booties. It has been ridden in less than 10 times and fits every horse I own. Lots of tooling and beautiful gold concho's. You need to see it to appreciate how beautiful it is. Sacrifice at 1400.00 or best offer! Lots of tooling..Email me for more photos.

Dave Knuth #4781 Wednesday, April 21, 2010 02:58 PM
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What size seat is your saddle? What is the gullet size? Thanks!!
4369) Therese Kline 2049 
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MI
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Copied post

Weather Permitting:

Work Bee at Ionia Recreation Area!!

Show your support for keeping the equestrian camp 100% equestrian by showing up to work!!


The equestrian camp needs trimming and winter clean up.
The Cart Trail needs finishing work.
There is a trail washout to repair on trail # 14.
Trail brushing and clean ups.
Trees are down blocking the trail in a number of locations.

Bring work gloves, nippers, shovels, chain saw, limb loppers.

The weather prediction may be wrong - camping in the equestrian area is available!!

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Dave & Judy Knuth 4781 Thursday, April 22, 2010 09:26 AM
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HI - if you have stayed at Ionia for camping - would you please advise first-time users the best sites to stay on? I can't seem to find any over-all trail maps either - like how big is the trail system, etc...I did read the site description about each individual campsite - with the layout...but without ever having been there...can't make a "good" choice! Thanks all!

TK 2049 Thursday, April 22, 2010 12:30 PM
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Dave and Judy - How long is your rig? Some sites are larger then others. We like site # 2 for our rig size. Or I guess these days its now site 102!

Start here (all these clickables are on this page)

[www.dnr.state.mi.us]

click on the Equestrian Rustic Campground map

[www.michigandnr.com]

It's small and not user friendly (The relic of when the camp was switched to part horse part not horse) but if you call the 1-800 camp registration line they can walk you through information - free if you do not register. Or call Ionia 616 527 3750 and they are very helpful to and may be able to fax you a map!!

Horse trails map here
[www.michigandnr.com]

You can call me to talk about sites later today or tomorrow - 517 625 3173 - but I have a family member in surgery again at U of M right now and may not be home until very late. My husband Dave may be reached there now and he is fabulous at talking about sites and sizes of camp rigs. But he will go with me later this evening to the hospital.

Judy Knuth #4781 Thursday, April 22, 2010 06:19 PM
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Thanks - I did print the campground sites and the descriptive site sizes and info. regarding shade/sunny etc...our gooseneck trailer is 40 ft. it listed on the site as maximum vehicle = 45 ft. and the biggest site I found was about 60 x 90...just wondered if any were really preferable or just personal taste..we like some shade for horses..are self-contained so not necessary to be near toilets...water I guess would be an asset - what about the site #121 - across from the manure collection points...too "stinky"? Thanks again and I hope your family member recovers well from surgery.

TK Sunday, April 25, 2010 02:07 PM
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Judy - we should be back home starting later this evening if you wish to call.
4368) Lori #3593 
Location:
Grand Haven
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FOR SALE: 1991 Merhow gooseneck horsetrailer... Two place, ramp load. Partial living quarters $4,200.

e-mail for pic's
4367) Therese Kline 2049 
Location:
MI
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Reminder for Trails Associations:

Applications for the MHC trails grant are due April 28th.

[www.michiganhorsecouncil.com]

Thank you!
4366) Carol 938 
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Grayling
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It has just come to my attention that our president and Theresa Kline were both recently quoted by the Grand Rapids press please read this link
[www.mlive.com] michigan laws a double-edge.html
Neither Gary nor Theresa felt the need to tell the newspaper columnist Howard Meyerson that the MTRA Board voted to support to support the right to ride bill. Did they miss quote you Gary and Theresa? Gary did you really tell this man that we have enough places to ride and don't need to ride at the pigeon river? Say it isn't so

Jeff Sawyer MTRA 1673 Monday, April 19, 2010 07:18 AM
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I believe it is still a free world with freedom of speech and opinion! You have yours "Right"!

Thanks

VSS #2311 Monday, April 19, 2010 09:28 AM
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To view the article, click on Carol's link and then click on "Outdoors Home" on the left-hand side of the page.

Everyone has a right to their personal opinion, but by identifying themselves the way they did (as affiliated with MTRA and MHC) they implied that they were speaking for all the members of these two groups, which is not true.

Carol938 Monday, April 19, 2010 10:34 AM
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Gary left me a message stating that he did tell Meyerson that the club did support the right to ride. Mr Meyerson chose not to use this important piece of information in his article.

.Jeff Sawyer Monday, April 19, 2010 11:20 AM
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Thanks Carol. Guys its great everyone has an opinion and I belive everyone has a right to their own opinion.Gary is a wonderful leader, who leads our group with a love and passion for horseback riding and our trails.Casting stones is not necessary.

Therese Kline 2049 Monday, April 19, 2010 02:25 PM
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Thanks Carol and Jeff and all for keeping up on the latest news!

I spoke to Mr. Meyerson as an individual - not representing anyone but myself. I see he identified me as MHC Trails Chairperson, which is true. The only mistake he made was the spelling of the city Dave and I live in. He expressed my concerns well - but missed a few points of caution that I have.

The Board of MTRA voted to support the Right to Ride idea. The members did not vote.

The President does not vote, except to break ties.

Al Fritzler MTRA#3369 Monday, April 19, 2010 02:28 PM
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As Gomer Pyle used to say, "Suhprise,suhprise". All you have to do is read what Meyerson has been writing all along to see that he is slanted toward the DNR. Unbiased journalism my a**.
4365) Dolores Powell 
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Looking for a trailer, preferrably a stock trailer around 16ft (can be bp or 5th wheel) under $3000.

Email me at powelldm@yahoo.com
4364) Loretta Baer #3569 
Location:
Columbus Township, MI
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(click the pictures to view in full.)


Registered 13 year old Tennessee Walker Gelding. 15 and 3 hands tall. No bad habits. Got him as a three year old. Has been ridden up north and in all the local parks as well as in Kentucky. Big boned and a great horse for a bigger person. Selling because I am turning 66 years old this year and trying to have two horses instead of three. I am getting to where I am not able to take care of so many horses. Asking $3800. Call for more information.

(810)367-7562
4363) Rachelle Keller #3168 
Location:
Plainwell, MI
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Hi just wanted to let everyone know that in allegan county, MI there are 2 new campgrounds Ely lake, Pine point that just opened this year and the trails are great not alot of hills but just great riding for the gaited people or horses that do well on easy trails there are lots of new trails about 50 miles. If you go to allegan county website it has the maps and trails.

SAK Sunday, April 18, 2010 05:00 AM
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Hey, Rach--just an aside, my gaited horses do just as well on "hard" trail as an "easy" one......but, am glad to hear more camps and trails are opening up. Do you get to ride to anything historic, interesting or pretty, or just circle riding?
4362) Loretta Baer # 3569 
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(4362) Black Ameria Flex saddle. 16 1/2". Double padded. Hardly used. Bought for $2100, but will sell for $1200.

Sorry for the double posting. The picture did not show up on the last post.

Nancy 5571 Sunday, April 18, 2010 04:33 PM
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What is the weight of our saddle and what tree does it have?

Loretta Baer 4569 Monday, April 19, 2010 10:52 AM
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The weight is 29lbs, wood tree, multi-layer system 7 flexiable panel model caliente call for more info. 810-367-7562[img][img][/img][/img]
4361) Loretta Baer #3569 
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Columbus Township, MI
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Ameria Flex saddle. Double padded. 16 1/2" seat. Hardly used. Paid $2100, but will sell for $1200.
4360) Therese Kline 2049 
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MI
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Survey:

If you had the chance to ride in a county or community park area along a river on a 4 mile loop would you be willing to pack out what you pack in (manure)?

A mid Michigan community park with a lovely riverside ride is considering allowing horses if IF IF the riders agree to clean up after the horse like the dog owners clean up after a dog.

Would you be willing if you were allowed this ride with a view?

Thank you

Therese

Jimmy Corlew Saturday, April 17, 2010 06:07 PM
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I would not pack manure out.I would go some where else to ride.

Gretchen Saturday, April 17, 2010 07:15 PM
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They don't want horse people there....How feasible is picking up manure and packing it out in your saddle bags? They know it's not going to happen. lol

Nancy 5571 Saturday, April 17, 2010 07:51 PM
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I agree, it would be possible to go back and walk 4 miles to clean up after the horses. That is not practical at all.

Carol 938 Saturday, April 17, 2010 09:27 PM
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I used to own a grey arabian gelding he would poop like he was dropping bread crumbs. and then he would lower his head and smell his way home. It just would not work to pick up after him!!!

Bleve Saturday, April 17, 2010 09:29 PM
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I'd be interested to hear how they suggest it be accomplished. Carrying a manure fork while riding is impractical. I wouldn't have a problem dismounting and kicking it off the trail, but packing it out seems like a tough problem to overcome and I know there are plenty of riders that can't just dismount and re-mount mid-ride.

Therese 2049 Sunday, April 18, 2010 10:08 AM
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I should have added: what is your nearest city?

This is a mid-MI park, lets say near Ionia/Shiawassee counties, midway between Lansing and Flint.

Are those who answered close to these cities with somewhat limited riding areas?

And yes, 4 miles is pretty short of a ride - but what if it connected to other riding areas?

(No this is not the CIS Trail)

Deb #956 Sunday, April 18, 2010 04:18 PM
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For Real??

Therese Kline 2049 Sunday, April 18, 2010 06:54 PM
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Very real.

I was asked if trail riders were allowed to ride and see the views (awesome btw!) if they would carry a plastic bag like a dog walker or have horse diapers to take this ride, AND if they would take the manure in the trailer, or those biskits that fell out of the trailer, back home with them as well.

I thought if a rider knew the rules and wanted the views, they would do so.

Seems I am quite wrong, judging from the information shared above.

So chances are this ride with a view will be lost to us.

Sad.

But I can't say in truth that horse riders will clean up when it is clear that this will not happen.

Tracy #1674 Monday, April 19, 2010 02:02 PM
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If they are that particular it will not work. No matter how careful you are in picking up after your horse it will never be enough. Picking up after a horse is NOT like picking up after a dog. There is going to be residue of some sort, something missed that will not be appreciated by hikers etc. What if your horse urinates in the middle of the trail and there is a hiker behind you? The more horses that ride it the worse it will be. Even if they will eventually allow horses I'm sure it would be short lived and not without opposition from somebody that has been using those trails prior to horses being there. You know the saying. It only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole bunch. Good luck though.

Therese Monday, April 19, 2010 02:27 PM
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Good points Tracy - I thought it was nice of them to even think to include horses.

SAK Thursday, April 22, 2010 07:58 AM
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Why can't there be a trail off to the side of the paved trail for the horses to use? That is how the rail trails up by St. Charles and Midland are arranged. And I have never understood why it is SO horrible for a horse to poop on a trail-- it's not like they coat the thing from side to side in all directions--are hikers and biker in capable of stepping over or going around it???

Terri Allore #4481 Saturday, April 24, 2010 11:04 AM
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Most disabled riders and some seniors would not be able to clean-up unless they were lucky enough to have someone else do the picking for them.
4359) cris p 1535 
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Northville
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Hi all you trail riders! Maybury is having it\'s annual Easter Egg Hunt! We know that Easter is over but someone needs to find those eggs! Join us for fun and beautiful trails at Maybury State Park at 8 Mile and Beck Rd in Northville. The Date is Sunday, April 25th, 2010 Donation is $5 & $7 Lunch is included Plus Great Prizes!Starts at: 11:00 at the Staging Area off of Beck between 8 & 7 mile rds
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1991 Sundowner 3 Horse Trailer For Sale
awning, hay rack, 2 water tanks, hot water heater, shower/toilet combo, heater, air conditioner, radio(cd player, small couch, back tack, good tires good condition.
Any Questions call
1(989)550-4859

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